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---+++ GUID1 Plenary Session Minutes
This are the minutes for the plenary session on Feb 1, 2006, in telegraphic format. Feel free to expand it.
Cliff Cunningham - Presentation: [[%ATTACHURL%/GUID_1_Plenary_1_Opening_CliffCunningham_NESCent.ppt]]
DonaldHobern - Presentation: [[%ATTACHURL%/GUID_1_Plenary_2_Introduction_DonaldHobern.ppt]]
Participants Introduction:
* RicardoPereira - TDWG Infrastructure Project, Brazil
* Peter Dawyndt - Ghent, microorganisms, global network of strains
* Hideaki Sugawara - Japan, WFCC, GBIF-Japan, nucleotide sequence database (DDBJ)
* Stan Blum - California Academy of Sciences, TDWG, GBIF, collection data, DIGIR, DWC
* Stinger Guala - Baton Rouge, USDA Plants DB, names, concepts, distribution records, TDWG, DIGIT
* MI Zuberi - Bangladesh, lots of biodiversity, Indian subcontinent, population geneticist
* DagTerje - IPGRI, global germplasm, index of regional collecting events, Nordic Genebank
* Paul Kirk - CABI Bioscience, IF
* MattJones - NCEAS, informatics projects, Synthesis activities, SEEK, modeling, metadata
* Kevin Richards - Landcare, collections, names, LSID on .NET
* Roger Hyam - TDWG, process, architecture
* Sally Hinchcliffe - Kew, IPNI, specimens, technical solution with minimal work
* Patricia Gensel - NESCent, paleobiology
* Andrew Jones - Cardiff, SPICE, LITCHI, persistence of ids
* Scott Federhen - GenBank, sequences to specimens, systematic literature
* Robert Huber - Bremen, WDC-MARE, data set identification for citation, marine, taxon names, Stratigraphy.net
* Donald Hobern - GBIF, TDWG
* Lee Belbin - TDWG infrastructure
* Damian Barnier - CBIT, identification keys
* BobPeet - UNC, Ecoinformatics, vegetation data, VegBank, SEEK taxon group
* Ben Szekely - IBM, LSID, best practices
* RichPyle - Bishop, NBII Pacific basic,
* Simon Coppard - ICZN, vertebrate taxonomy, ZooBank
* Jessie Kennedy - Napier, TCS
* George Garrity - Michigan, later
* Greg Riccardi - FSU, MorphBank, GGF database access and integration services WG
* RodPage - Glasgow, TreeBase, LSIDs, Handles, why not tomorrow
* Steven Perry - KU, DiGIR 2, LSIDs
* Cliff Cunningham - NESCent, find home for all data submitted to evolutionary journals, need GUIDs
RicardoPereira - Presentation: [[%ATTACHURL%/GUID_1_Plenary_3_Definitions_RicardoPereira.ppt]]
Jessie Kennedy - Presentation: [[%ATTACHURL%/GUID_1_Plenary_4_ReqsForTaxonNamesAndConcepts_JessieKennedy.ppt]]
RicardoPereira - Presentation: [[%ATTACHURL%/GUID_1_Plenary_5_ReqsForSpecimensAndCollections_RicardoPereira.ppt]]
* Greg Riccardi - Collections Management software does hold ids in the short-term
* Peter Dawyndt/Sally Hinchcliffe/RichPyle - doesn't work now in practice with current practices, numbers not necessarily unique, history varies
* George Garrity - Also live samples
* Jessie Kennedy - Clarify why discussed relationships between GUIDs after saying this wasn't the subject
* RicardoPereira /Donald Hobern - background for what we are doing
* Bob Peet - Be sensitive to the needs for observations, etc.
* MattJones - Discussing specimens is interesting because deals with concrete examples, which doesn't apply to observations
* George Garrity - Rights management need to be discussed
* Scott Federhen - Even for specimens, the record is digital so not clear
* Greg Riccardi - QOS is the real issue with GUIDs
* RodericPage - Presentation: [[%ATTACHURL%/GUID_1_Plenary_8_GUIDs_Metadata_RDF_RodericPage.ppt]]
* Jessie Kennedy - Your inference example - should we believe these inferences
* Sally Hinchcliffe - It's the metadata that helps us to know
* MattJones - Incompatible inferences are certainly a problem
* Ben Szekely - Presentation: [[%ATTACHURL%/GUID_1_Plenary_6_LifeSciencesIndentifiers_BenSzekely.ppt]]
* Scott Federhen - GenBank not guaranteed to return same byte sequence - FASTA files can be changed by changes to organism names
* RichPyle - When should versions be used?
* Ben Szekely - recommend you don't, because versioning should really be addressed by metadata linkages
* Sally Hinchcliffe - What of multiple services for same LSID?
* Ben Szekely - We developed a service to allow resolvers to provide information to originators that they have foreign metadata for the LSID
* George Garrity - Presentation: [[%ATTACHURL%/GUID_1_Plenary_7_DigitalObjectIdentifiers_GeorgeGarrity.ppt]]
* Paul Kirk - Cost is the issue.
* Robert Huber - For WDC-Mare, c. 25 cents per DOI vs. 1000� data acquisition costs per data set
* Scott Federhen - RA maintenance of ids is still a cost
* George Garrity - what is the user community? What would they pay for?
* Donald Hobern - Presentation: [[%ATTACHURL%/GUID_1_Plenary_9_IdentifyingObjects_DonaldHobern.ppt]]
* Stan Blum - Do we ever have external objects to which we want to assign GUIDs?
* RogerHyam - Objects can have different facets?
* Sally Hinchcliffe - Separate between "should" and "is".
* RichPyle - Do GUIDs get moved when specimens are transferred to other organizations?
* Scott Federhen - Common situation e.g. with Jansen butterflies
* Stan Blum - This sort of thing will be modeled through applicability statements
* Ben Szekely - My instinct would be to assign new id with link to new authority
* Donald Hobern - May wish to attach non-actionable GUIDs to objects and actionable ones to data objects
* RichPyle - Applies whenever multiple providers describe same thing
* RicardoPereira - Catalogue numbers already exist - cannot change this - need to concentrate on linkages between digital objects
* Stan Blum - Cancelation of duplicates requires GUIDs?
* MattJones - Need also to meet needs of students and professors sharing data
* Jessie Kennedy/Sally Hinchcliffe - We musn't get too hung up on opacity
* RicardoPereira - Let's list criteria we have to evaluate systems
* Andrew Jones - If we adopt LSID, would it not be sensible to adopt standards in use with other LSID implementations, etc.
* Peter Dawyndt - Always need to be able to handle having multiple identifiers for same thing
* Jessie Kennedy - Must address the requirements