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@%META:TOPICINFO{author="RicardoPereira" date="1173791332" format="1.1" version="1.6"}%
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This are the minutes for the plenary session on Feb 1, 2006, in telegraphic format. Feel free to expand it.
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Cliff Cunningham - Presentation: [[%ATTACHURL%/GUID_1_Plenary_1_Opening_CliffCunningham_NESCent.ppt]]
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DonaldHobern - Presentation: [[%ATTACHURL%/GUID_1_Plenary_2_Introduction_DonaldHobern.ppt]]
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Participants Introduction:
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* RicardoPereira - TDWG Infrastructure Project, Brazil
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* Peter Dawyndt - Ghent, microorganisms, global network of strains
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* Hideaki Sugawara - Japan, WFCC, GBIF-Japan, nucleotide sequence database (DDBJ)
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* Stan Blum - California Academy of Sciences, TDWG, GBIF, collection data, DIGIR, DWC
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* Stinger Guala - Baton Rouge, USDA Plants DB, names, concepts, distribution records, TDWG, DIGIT
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* MI Zuberi - Bangladesh, lots of biodiversity, Indian subcontinent, population geneticist
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* DagTerje - IPGRI, global germplasm, index of regional collecting events, Nordic Genebank
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* Paul Kirk - CABI Bioscience, IF
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* MattJones - NCEAS, informatics projects, Synthesis activities, SEEK, modeling, metadata
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* Kevin Richards - Landcare, collections, names, LSID on .NET
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* Roger Hyam - TDWG, process, architecture
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* Sally Hinchcliffe - Kew, IPNI, specimens, technical solution with minimal work
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* Patricia Gensel - NESCent, paleobiology
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* Andrew Jones - Cardiff, SPICE, LITCHI, persistence of ids
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* Scott Federhen - GenBank, sequences to specimens, systematic literature
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* Robert Huber - Bremen, WDC-MARE, data set identification for citation, marine, taxon names, Stratigraphy.net
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* Donald Hobern - GBIF, TDWG
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* Lee Belbin - TDWG infrastructure
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* Damian Barnier - CBIT, identification keys
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* BobPeet - UNC, Ecoinformatics, vegetation data, VegBank, SEEK taxon group
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* Ben Szekely - IBM, LSID, best practices
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* RichPyle - Bishop, NBII Pacific basic,
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* Simon Coppard - ICZN, vertebrate taxonomy, ZooBank
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* Jessie Kennedy - Napier, TCS
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* George Garrity - Michigan, later
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* Greg Riccardi - FSU, MorphBank, GGF database access and integration services WG
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* RodPage - Glasgow, TreeBase, LSIDs, Handles, why not tomorrow
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* Steven Perry - KU, DiGIR 2, LSIDs
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* Cliff Cunningham - NESCent, find home for all data submitted to evolutionary journals, need GUIDs
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RicardoPereira - Presentation: [[%ATTACHURL%/GUID_1_Plenary_3_Definitions_RicardoPereira.ppt]]
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Jessie Kennedy - Presentation: [[%ATTACHURL%/GUID_1_Plenary_4_ReqsForTaxonNamesAndConcepts_JessieKennedy.ppt]]
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RicardoPereira - Presentation: [[%ATTACHURL%/GUID_1_Plenary_5_ReqsForSpecimensAndCollections_RicardoPereira.ppt]]
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* Greg Riccardi - Collections Management software does hold ids in the short-term
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* Peter Dawyndt/Sally Hinchcliffe/RichPyle - doesn't work now in practice with current practices, numbers not necessarily unique, history varies
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* George Garrity - Also live samples
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* Jessie Kennedy - Clarify why discussed relationships between GUIDs after saying this wasn't the subject
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* RicardoPereira /Donald Hobern - background for what we are doing
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* Bob Peet - Be sensitive to the needs for observations, etc.
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* MattJones - Discussing specimens is interesting because deals with concrete examples, which doesn't apply to observations
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* George Garrity - Rights management need to be discussed
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* Scott Federhen - Even for specimens, the record is digital so not clear
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* Greg Riccardi - QOS is the real issue with GUIDs
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* RodericPage - Presentation: [[%ATTACHURL%/GUID_1_Plenary_8_GUIDs_Metadata_RDF_RodericPage.ppt]]
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* Jessie Kennedy - Your inference example - should we believe these inferences
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* Sally Hinchcliffe - It's the metadata that helps us to know
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* MattJones - Incompatible inferences are certainly a problem
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* Ben Szekely - Presentation: [[%ATTACHURL%/GUID_1_Plenary_6_LifeSciencesIndentifiers_BenSzekely.ppt]]
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* Scott Federhen - GenBank not guaranteed to return same byte sequence - FASTA files can be changed by changes to organism names
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* RichPyle - When should versions be used?
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* Ben Szekely - recommend you don't, because versioning should really be addressed by metadata linkages
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* Sally Hinchcliffe - What of multiple services for same LSID?
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* Ben Szekely - We developed a service to allow resolvers to provide information to originators that they have foreign metadata for the LSID
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* George Garrity - Presentation: [[%ATTACHURL%/GUID_1_Plenary_7_DigitalObjectIdentifiers_GeorgeGarrity.ppt]]
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* Paul Kirk - Cost is the issue.
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* Robert Huber - For WDC-Mare, c. 25 cents per DOI vs. 1000� data acquisition costs per data set
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* Scott Federhen - RA maintenance of ids is still a cost
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* George Garrity - what is the user community? What would they pay for?
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* Donald Hobern - Presentation: [[%ATTACHURL%/GUID_1_Plenary_9_IdentifyingObjects_DonaldHobern.ppt]]
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* Stan Blum - Do we ever have external objects to which we want to assign GUIDs?
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* RogerHyam - Objects can have different facets?
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* Sally Hinchcliffe - Separate between "should" and "is".
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* RichPyle - Do GUIDs get moved when specimens are transferred to other organizations?
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* Scott Federhen - Common situation e.g. with Jansen butterflies
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* Stan Blum - This sort of thing will be modeled through applicability statements
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* Ben Szekely - My instinct would be to assign new id with link to new authority
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* Donald Hobern - May wish to attach non-actionable GUIDs to objects and actionable ones to data objects
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* RichPyle - Applies whenever multiple providers describe same thing
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* RicardoPereira - Catalogue numbers already exist - cannot change this - need to concentrate on linkages between digital objects
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* Stan Blum - Cancelation of duplicates requires GUIDs?
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* MattJones - Need also to meet needs of students and professors sharing data
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* Jessie Kennedy/Sally Hinchcliffe - We musn't get too hung up on opacity
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* RicardoPereira - Let's list criteria we have to evaluate systems
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* Andrew Jones - If we adopt LSID, would it not be sensible to adopt standards in use with other LSID implementations, etc.
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* Peter Dawyndt - Always need to be able to handle having multiple identifiers for same thing
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* Jessie Kennedy - Must address the requirements
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RicardoScachettiPereira - TDWG Infrastructure Project, Brazil
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Peter Dawyndt - Ghent, microorganisms, global network of strains
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Hideaki Sugawara - Japan, WFCC, GBIF-Japan, nucleotide sequence database (DDBJ)
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Stan Blum - California Academy of Sciences, TDWG, GBIF, collection data, DIGIR, DWC
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Stinger Guala - Baton Rouge, USDA Plants DB, names, concepts, distribution records, TDWG, DIGIT
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MI Zuberi - Bangladesh, lots of biodiversity, Indian subcontinent, population geneticist
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DagTerje - IPGRI, global germplasm, index of regional collecting events, Nordic Genebank
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Paul Kirk - CABI Bioscience, IF
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MattJones - NCEAS, informatics projects, Synthesis activities, SEEK, modeling, metadata
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Kevin Richards - Landcare, collections, names, LSID on .NET
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Roger Hyam - TDWG, process, architecture
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Sally Hinchcliffe - Kew, IPNI, specimens, technical solution with minimal work
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Patricia Gensel - NESCent, paleobiology
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Andrew Jones - Cardiff, SPICE, LITCHI, persistence of ids
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Scott Federhen - GenBank, sequences to specimens, systematic literature
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Robert Huber - Bremen, WDC-MARE, data set identification for citation, marine, taxon names, Stratigraphy.net
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Donald Hobern - GBIF, TDWG
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Lee Belbin - TDWG infrastructure
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Damian Barnier - CBIT, identification keys
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RicardoScachettiPereira - UNC, Ecoinformatics, vegetation data, VegBank, SEEK taxon group
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Ben Szekely - IBM, LSID, best practices
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RichPyle - Bishop, NBII Pacific basic,
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Simon Coppard - ICZN, vertebrate taxonomy, ZooBank
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Jessie Kennedy - Napier, TCS
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George Garrity - Michigan, later
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Greg Riccardi - FSU, MorphBank, GGF database access and integration services WG
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RodericPage - Glasgow, TreeBase, LSIDs, Handles, why not tomorrow
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Steven Perry - KU, DiGIR 2, LSIDs
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Cliff Cunningham - NESCent, find home for all data submitted to evolutionary journals, need GUIDs
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RicardoScachettiPereira - Presentation: [[%ATTACHURL%/GUID_1_Plenary_5_ReqsForSpecimensAndCollections_RicardoPereira.ppt]]
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Greg Riccardi - Collections Management software does hold ids in the short-term
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Peter Dawyndt/Sally Hinchcliffe/RichPyle - doesn't work now in practice with current practices, numbers not necessarily unique, history varies
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George Garrity - Also live samples
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Jessie Kennedy - Clarify why discussed relationships between GUIDs after saying this wasn't the subject
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RicardoScachettiPereira/Donald Hobern - background for what we are doing
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Bob Peet - Be sensitive to the needs for observations, etc.
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MattJones - Discussing specimens is interesting because deals with concrete examples, which doesn't apply to observations
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George Garrity - Rights management need to be discussed
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Scott Federhen - Even for specimens, the record is digital so not clear
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Greg Riccardi - QOS is the real issue with GUIDs
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RodericPage - Presentation: [[%ATTACHURL%/GUID_1_Plenary_8_GUIDs_Metadata_RDF_RodericPage.ppt]]
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a66 3
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Jessie Kennedy - Your inference example - should we believe these inferences
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Sally Hinchcliffe - It's the metadata that helps us to know
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MattJones - Incompatible inferences are certainly a problem
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Ben Szekely - Presentation: [[%ATTACHURL%/GUID_1_Plenary_6_LifeSciencesIndentifiers_BenSzekely.ppt]]
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Scott Federhen - GenBank not guaranteed to return same byte sequence - FASTA files can be changed by changes to organism names
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RichPyle - When should versions be used?
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Ben Szekely - recommend you don't, because versioning should really be addressed by metadata linkages
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Sally Hinchcliffe - What of multiple services for same LSID?
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Ben Szekely - We developed a service to allow resolvers to provide information to originators that they have foreign metadata for the LSID
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d77 5
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a81 5
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George Garrity - Presentation: [[%ATTACHURL%/GUID_1_Plenary_7_DigitalObjectIdentifiers_GeorgeGarrity.ppt]]
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Paul Kirk - Cost is the issue.
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Robert Huber - For WDC-Mare, c. 25 cents per DOI vs. 1000<30> data acquisition costs per data set
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Scott Federhen - RA maintenance of ids is still a cost
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George Garrity - what is the user community? What would they pay for?
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Donald Hobern - Presentation: [[%ATTACHURL%/GUID_1_Plenary_9_IdentifyingObjects_DonaldHobern.ppt]]
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Stan Blum - Do we ever have external objects to which we want to assign GUIDs?
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RH - Objects can have different facets?
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Sally Hinchcliffe - Separate between "should" and "is".
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RichPyle - Do GUIDs get moved when specimens are transferred to other organizations?
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Scott Federhen - Common situation e.g. with Jansen butterflies
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Stan Blum - This sort of thing will be modeled through applicability statements
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Ben Szekely - My instinct would be to assign new id with link to new authority
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Donald Hobern - May wish to attach non-actionable GUIDs to objects and actionable ones to data objects
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RichPyle - Applies whenever multiple providers describe same thing
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RicardoScachettiPereira - Catalogue numbers already exist - cannot change this - need to concentrate on linkages between digital objects
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Stan Blum - Cancelation of duplicates requires GUIDs?
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MattJones - Need also to meet needs of students and professors sharing data
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Jessie Kennedy/Sally Hinchcliffe - We musn't get too hung up on opacity
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RicardoScachettiPereira - Let's list criteria we have to evaluate systems
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Andrew Jones - If we adopt LSID, would it not be sensible to adopt standards in use with other LSID implementations, etc.
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Peter Dawyndt - Always need to be able to handle having multiple identifiers for same thing
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Jessie Kennedy - Must address the requirements
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Matt Jones - NCEAS, informatics projects, Synthesis activities, SEEK, modeling, metadata
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Ricardo Pereira - UNC, Ecoinformatics, vegetation data, VegBank, SEEK taxon group
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Rod Page - Glasgow, TreeBase, LSIDs, Handles, why not tomorrow
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Peter Dawyndt/Sally Hinchcliffe/Rich Pyle - doesn't work now in practice with current practices, numbers not necessarily unique, history varies
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Ricardo Pereira/Donald Hobern - background for what we are doing
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Rod Page - Presentation: [[%ATTACHURL%/GUID_1_Plenary_8_GUIDs_Metadata_RDF_RodericPage.ppt]]
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Rich Pyle - Applies whenever multiple providers describe same thing
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Ricardo Pereira - Catalogue numbers already exist - cannot change this - need to concentrate on linkages between digital objects
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